Poinsettia Bowl Wrapup- Kellen Moore's Legacy
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 22, 2011 3:39 AM CST
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The Mountain West Conference Champion TCU Horned Frogs played in their bowl game today against the WAC champion Louisiana Tech Bulldogs today, and managed to pull out a win, but if ESPN's coverage of the game is anything to go on, then you loyal reader are much more concerned with what the legacy of Kellen Moore is. Obviously TV viewers who are watching the champions of two leagues are much more interested in hearing about the legacy of a player who finished second in one of those same leagues, and for that matter finished second in the other league the year before. So let's analyze it, shall we?
*Disclaimer for Boise State fans: You probably want to stop reading here.*
Kellen Moore's legacy is being one of only two Quarterbacks from non-AQ conferences to play in a BCS bowl game, but never throw a touchdown pass in one (the other being Hawaii's Colt Brennan). Kellen Moore's legacy is of winning an outright conference championship two times (both in the WAC). Kellen Moore's legacy is being the first Boise State QB to lose a conference game on his home field in a decade. Kellen Moore's legacy is that of being close to pulling off great things, but never actually being the player who pulls off (or doesn't pull off) those things himself- In the Poinsettia Bowl it was Moore who threw the backbreaking pick that let TCU run off all but six seconds and seal the win. In the Fiesta Bowl it was Brotzman who made Boise State's best throw of the night that set up the Bronco win. The next year it was Brotzman who missed the kick that cost the Broncos the win, and the year after it was Brotzman who missed the field goal that cost Boise against Nevada. The next year it was Moore again who misfired on four consecutive downs and would have ended the game there if not for possibly the most phantom of pass interference penalties ever. The world as a whole will likely remember Kellen Moore as the guy who won a lot of games, and but for field goal kicking might have had a chance to win bigger ones. TCU fans will remember Kellen Moore as the quarterback who wasn't a good enough player to win the games himself. As the player who was only in position to have his freshman kicker miss a field goal because this was called.
TCU pass interference vs Boise State - 11.12.2011 (via brandonmitchellorg)
Even Ohio State says that flag came in suspiciously late.
So there's Kellen Moore's legacy. He beat a lot of teams he was supposed to beat, against team where it was close, he didn't win the game. Maybe his teammates won it for him, maybe they lost it for him, but Kellen Moore didn't win the game for them in the end. And you can be the most accurate QB in history (and he's certainly up there), but if you don't win the game for your team at the end, you're not the greatest QB ever.
Next on Frogs O' War: Actual Poinsettia Bowl analysis, I just had a bug up my butt about half a quarter of a TCU football game turning into a lickfest for a player who wasn't even in the game.
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As a fan of the Jacksonville Jaguars
I would want him on my team. The guy is a beast of a quarterback. He has a long resume, he’s seen all kinds of defenses, he’s played in a pro style offense.
I mean sure they never reached the promised land, but how many of us every year during week 1 thought “This is finally it for Boise St” only to have them beat a team they shouldn’t beat? They sure were exciting to watch.
In the end, no QB ever wins or loses by himself and it’s really a shame that, in the future, when people argue about what he’s done, they’re going to always have the “yeah but…”. He was a really good QB, but he played in the WAC. He was a really good QB, but he never won the big one. He was a really good QB, but look at the weapons he had to work with. I can rattle off a couple other QB’s who fit the same kind of argument perfectly. Our very own Andy Dalton and Colt McCoy, two of the winningest QB’s ever are included.
by moufpuncha on Dec 22, 2011 6:52 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
dissent
Kellen Moore had about 3 bad games in his entire college career, and the TCU-Boise match this year wasn’t one of them.
Darth Kellen goes down as one of the best QBs TCU has ever played; give the guy his due.
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by Purple Wimple on Dec 22, 2011 8:39 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
I have no problem with Kellen Moore, I think he’s a great QB. I have a problem with spending ten minutes of real game time, when plays are happening and everything, talking about how great a player who isn’t in the game is.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 22, 2011 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
Uninspired
They probably talked about Kellen Moore because it was such and incredibly boring game. TCU played like they did really want to be there and did just enough to win and not more. La Tech played a good game but there is no way that TCU should not have won that game by 3 touchdowns. Very dissappointing performance all the way around, turnovers, penalties, and mental mistakes abound. Oh well, at least they won’t have to worry about playing a tough WAC team anymore. Good luck in your new conference. I honestly hope that TCU has a great season next year.
by BluManU on Dec 22, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You need meds...
if you think losing at home is Kellen’s legacy. Wake up and smell the coffee.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 22, 2011 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ESPN
My gripe was with the coverage that started off as “Hey watch the Las Vegas Bowl it has Boise State and Kellen Moore,” but it turned into some diatribe about Moore far too long in my opinion.
Especially with this being a close game it should have not lasted as long and more effort concentrated on the game they were calling.
by Jeremy Mauss on Dec 22, 2011 8:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Exactly, my good chum.
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by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 22, 2011 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
My good chum?
Hipster alert. Go drink some PBR and watch the bowl games ironicly.
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by forseyfan36 on Dec 23, 2011 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
It’s a Futurama reference, actually.
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by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 23, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
Mauss
Had it not been a snoozer maybe they would have had material to talk about.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 22, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Congrats on putting those guys in there place
The ESPN agenda was so clear in 09 & 10 when TCU was the better team in the better conference but ESPN continued to use their national stage to shill for the Broncos.
Not only to drive Wens or Thurs night ratings, since they held the contract but to further their agenda of owning/controlling a playoff. You see know that the playoff momentum is building you hear less and less about Boise.
I had TCU on the Money line (to win outright) vs Boise and I came out of my seat about ten times with that 4th Qtr officiating. Glad it worked out, just got the check yesterday
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Let's see
“09 & 10 when TCU was the better team in the better conference " I could be wrong but didn’t BSU beat TCU in the 2010 Fiesta Bowl?
You’re hearing less and less about BSU for the same reason you heard less about TCU before. The TV contract of the MWC.
Maybe the reason the ball look uncatchable was because the TCU defender was holding the BSU reciever all the way across the field. Just sayin’.
by BluManU on Dec 22, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow... Nice comeback stars... You really got him....
That’s all you have to say to that? Idiot.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
it was an upset for a reason.
http://www.frogsowar.com
by Purple Wimple on Dec 24, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Boise State has had far more quality wins than TCU in Kellen's era.
Oregon twice. Until USC this year, the last team to win in Autzen was Boise State with freshman QB K Money at the helm. He passed for over 450 yards.
VT- On Boise State’s last drive he scored in 38 seconds to take the lead 33-30 and win on the east coast.
TCU- All I remember from that game is Kyle Wilson flying in and ESPN taking a commercial break because Dalton couldn’t get up off his back. Man, Andy was dominated by the defense that game.
Georgia- The Surgeon sliced and diced UGA for 35 points. All with inexperienced WR’s.
Hey congrats on beating Wisconsin, I was pulling for ya, but your schedule has always been weak in the regular season. Beating a ranked Utah is like us counting beating of ranked Oregon State or Hawaii. Heck, even we dominated Utah last year.
Nice game last night… Have fun getting destroyed in the Big 12 while we win the Big East year in and year out. Oh, and buy your coach a belt already. Good gracious.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 22, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
win the big east year in and year out? is the big east a conference?
isn’t boise state located in the upper northwestern part of the united states. didn’t tcu win AT boise 36-35? haven’t you guys ever heard of a certain school called the University of Louisville who is now under the direction of Charlie Strong with freshman all-american Teddy B at QB. Boise St. won’t be winning the Big East for the next 3 years and they will probably become quite irrelevant.
Lousiville?! What a joke.
Charlie Strong<Chris Petersen. Coach Pete has 2 Coach of the Year Awards and is wanted by every school looking for a new coach. Stanford, UCLA, Arizona State, Florida all wanted him as a replacement. I guarantee Loserville would have snatched him up over Charlie any day had they thought they had a chance. Also, last time I checked, Louisville was unranked and got spanked by Florida International at home. That would be why we are favorites to win the BE next year.
We could talk recruits all day. Boise State is signing the best class in school history with a JC all american DeMarcus Lawrence and Florida 8A player of the year, QB NicK Patti. They’ve beaten out countless SEC and Pac 12 schools for these players. At any rate, no one recruits can change a program. (I’m looking at you, Jimmy Clausen.)
As for the 36-35- Boise played great considering their starting 3 CB’s and starting 2 RB’s were out with injuries. Harper was blasting TCU until he was injured which lead to the 3rd string Wright fumbling the ball. At any rate, the TCU-Boise State series is 2-2, but the tie breaker is the fact we beat you in a BCS bowl. We are 2-0 in the btw… you are 1-1.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 22, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Of course Boise has a better football program this season, years past, *yawn*
Coach Petersen. Good coach but as I read Boise’s blog after TCU’s win in Boise half of you guys wanted him fire and were depressed crybabies. It was pure comedy. Now looking to the future, I’ll let the game. speak for itself. By tthe time Boise joins, UofL will be in the Big 12. That’s what happens when you have a legitimate athletic department.
ps- Do you remember that one time Louisville played Boise in the Liberty Bowl? Oh I think ya’ll like to forget that part too
I remember beating Louisville in the H-Bowl.
I also remember them begging the Big 12 to invite them and not getting invited. Past that I don’t remember much about them because they have been irrelevant for so long.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 22, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Of course, in football, their program was killed by an awful coaching hire
but Uofl and TCU athletic dept trumps anything Boise anyday.
Really?
Because we just hired a new AD from Kentucky, which has a better dept than Loserville. Don’t pretend like you know anything about our athletic department.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:07 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't we also have a compliance director from TCU?
Yes we do haha
by BSUbluNorange on Dec 23, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I know uofls and tcus overall dept
Sh*ts on yours
by TCUCard on Dec 23, 2011 2:17 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
LOL...
Funny how big-headed you Toad fans have become. When YOU were going to the Big East, it was highly-touted and great. Now all of a sudden, you’re asking “is it a conference?”
Can’t wait to see TCU at the bottom of the Big 12 standings. Patterson might throw his biggest temper tantrum ever.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
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by 82-0 on Dec 22, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
FIESTA BOWL
17-10… Against you guys.
#86: “Too bad this will never be in our trophy case.”
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:11 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
The only part of that trophy worth a $#!+ is the football
Now you were saying?
It was hilarious
I too was amazed at how much talk about Moore went on last night. My wife kept laughing and I kept saying “I bet TCU fans are going to be pissed…”
My wife asked me why they were being so laudatory toward Kellen when they bashed BSU all season. My take is now that BSU is not (for this year anyway) a threat to their revered conferences, nor the BCS party, they could throw Moore a bone as if to prove they have no bias against him and the Broncos.
From a Bronco fan perspective, the constant chatter was hilarious. But in fairness, the game was a yawner. TCU looked as flat as those squashed horny toads I found in the street growing up in New Mexico. They had to talk about something. I had TCU as my “35 ranking win”. I am glad I just had to pick the winner and not cover the spread.
Finally, the tenor of the article was incredibly immature and sour grapes. It made me wonder if maybe TCU had accepted a bid to the SEC. Oh, and I am betting you did not watch the BSU/Virginia Tech game, or maybe since it did not fit into your pouting diatribe you just ignored it. Anyway, good luck next year; it will be interesting to see how you fare in your new league.
by rememberwhen on Dec 22, 2011 11:51 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I’d passd over the VTech win, you’re right in hindsight that was a good win. The problem is that Tech immediately went out and lost to an FCS school and immediately undervalued the Boise win- so there’s no telling exactly how good Tech actually was at that early part in the season.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 22, 2011 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
I completely agree with this diatribe. Have fun in the Big East or
C-USA 2.0. Tell me how that Rose Bowl trophy taste.
You are running a little behind... We already accepted our invite.
But maybe it was hard to see the news?
P.s. Our Fiesta Bowl win over the toads tastes pretty good. Looks pretty good next to our 2003 Fort Worth Bowl too.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 22, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for 2-1 Bowl wins reference
by BSUbluNorange on Dec 22, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rose Bowl over Wisconsin> Sugar Bowl over OU>Fiesta Bowl over us
Boise St. would’ve been in the Rose Bowl last year- if only they had a competent kicker.
Probably would’ve been in a BCS bowl game this year.
You just outed yourself.
Boise State didn’t play OU in the sugar, they played in the Fiesta, which makes sense since the Big 12 has a tie in with the Fiesta Bowl and not the Sugar Bowl.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 22, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it just shows you don't know your stuff.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:12 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
hardly sometimes you forget minor details
I have a life
by TCUCard on Dec 23, 2011 2:18 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Feels like a top 10 ranking.
how does 11-2 with an embarrassing performance against LTU feel?
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You might
Card, You might want to worry about your own team next year. TCU had a great season last year and deserve to be congratulated for the Rose Bowl win. Whoever wrote this article failed to remember(or just didn’t bother to research) that no BSU team with Kellen Moore at QB has lost to an AQ conference team. As was pointed out earlier Oregon won 19 home games in a row before losing to USC and after losing to BSU. BSU also played and won what were basically home games for VT and Georgia. The 3 games that BSU has lost in the last 4 years were by a total of 5 points. Kellen’s legacy will not be any of those 3 games but rather the , probably, 50 he did win and the fact that he and the rest of the senoirs are a class act.
If the game hadn’t of sucked so bad maybe they would have been talking about that. You can only say “:TCU just doesn’t seem to be mentally in the game”, or “yeah Pachall missed another open receiver” or “hit him right in the hands, not sure why he didn’t catch it” or “boy, La Tech stuffed him behind the line AGAIN”, so many times before people get tired of hearing it. It was by any measure an uninspired and disappointing performance by TCU.
Lastly, to the author who apparently has never played any type of organized team athletics. No one player or play can lose a game. In the 3, count ’em THREE, loses in the last 4, let me say that again, FOUR years Kellen did exactly what the coaches asked of him. Period, end of story.
by BluManU on Dec 22, 2011 3:13 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
TCU was just bored. They were just as bored as the fans watching.
LA Tech? Please. Our guys wanted to play a real football team. Trust me, I work with them, I know. They told me. Not a surprise we slept walked through that game. You can bash Pachall and our WRS all you want but who’s the last team to win in Boise? Oh yeah. That would be Pachall and the Horned Frogs.
That is the lamest excuse.
“Our guys wanted to play a real team.” What a joke. The fact is you needed a 4th quarter comeback to beat La. Tech.
P.S. You lost to SMU
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 22, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He’s a good QB, he’s not in the discussion for “greatest QB of all time” because he only won the conference twice. He has more wins than other QBs because he played more games than other QBs, due to the Hawaii thing. His legacy is about the same as Colt McCoy, the only difference is Moore played Hawaii, was a better thrower and wasn’t as good of a runner.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 22, 2011 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
He won the conference 3 times.
Despite losing to Nevada in 2010, we still won the WAC Championship. Geez, you need to get your heads out of your BW’s and do your research before you write stupid articles and make stupid excuses to back them up.
Kellen Moore, top 3 Heisman finish and record setter. Fact is the analysts agree, Moore was one in a million.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:17 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Andy Dalton's legacy:
Wisconsin, and…. ?
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Kyle Wilson laying him out.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 22, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Act 1; Scene 2
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 22, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Watching Kellen Moore at the Heisman ceremony.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Dec 22, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Not Andy Dalton.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Dec 22, 2011 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm sure kellen Moore
Is getting drafted and starting in the nfl nxt year NOT! He can go hold Dalton’s clipboard in Cindy
by TCUCard on Dec 23, 2011 2:20 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
We’ll see if Kellen Moore starts and leads his team to the playoffs in his first year.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
Thats your only response to one of 2011's best gifs?
Haha that thing is hilarious, he was totally going for the ref’s junk
by BSUbluNorange on Jan 6, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
Winning at Clemson, blowing out two top ten ranked Utah teams, blowing out two ten win BYU teams and of course being 1-1 against Boise State.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 22, 2011 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
Clemson and Utah sucked those years.
And BYU has always sucked. Boise State blew out Utah in the Vegas bowl. TCU’s sched was crap. Honestly, you are using BYU as a quality win? They lost to a 4 win Utah state in 2010. Clemson was a nobody and didn’t even win their division that year, yet you still only won by 3. But the year you beat Clemson you lost to us so case closed.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The year you beat Virginia Tech you lost to Nevada. The year before you beat us, we beat you. Yeah, BYU sucked in 2010, I was referencing the 2008 10-3 team and the 2009 team that beat Oklahoma in Dallas. We both blew out Utah that year, the only difference is TCU did it at Rice-Eccles, breaking their massive home winning streak. You know, we broke 0U’s massive home winning streak as well. Now I know we broke someone else’s home winning streak this year, which team was that again? Oh yes! It was Boise State.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 23, 2011 5:08 AM CST up reply actions
Casey Pachall's legacy:
Boise State having another bad kicker.
Sucking against SMU and LaTech.
Getting owned by Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia in the Big 12.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Dec 22, 2011 3:19 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
TCU's legacy
doormat in the Big 12 for years to come. Enjoy that.
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Dec 22, 2011 6:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
because who wants to win?
you’re an idiot
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Dec 22, 2011 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
yes who wants to win?
I prefer competition and Boise won’t win the big east unless uofl leaves point blank period
by TCUCard on Dec 23, 2011 12:07 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
TCUCard
You are the only person who thinks Louisville is at all good. Evidence- Boise ranked #7, Louisville -Unranked. Louisville sucks and even they know it.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:20 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Leave Kellen ALONE!!!
seriously, you’re crying more than that guy. Don’t be bitter because ESPN and the rest of the country is more interested in our QB than your crappy 7 point win for Louisiana freaking Tech.
Thank you, Nick Adenhart. You will always be remembered. #34
by howiestheman on Dec 22, 2011 3:34 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Dear Boise St Fans Who Choose to Comment on This Post
36-35. Tell your kicker he’s getting plenty of thank you cards in the mail for Christmas.
The Boise butthurt is strong. Personally, I have no hard feelings for Kellen Moore or Boise, but when I watch a TCU game I like hearing about TCU and the team they’re playing against, not how great some guy we already beat is.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
The irony of YOU calling us "butthurt" after that post you wrote is staggering.
You couldn’t be any more butthurt about Kellen’s greatness. Cry harder, dude. Kellen > any QB in TCU history.
Enjoy the basement of the Big 12.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Dec 22, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Did Kellen actually win a Heisman trophy? No? A TCU QB has.
Did Kellen actually win a national title? No? Two TCU QBs have.
Did Kellen actually throw a TD Pass in a BCS game? No? A TCU QB has thrown a TD pass in both of our BCS appearances.
Good luck in the Big East!
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 22, 2011 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
LOL...
reaching back to the 1930’s? Okay, dude. You sound like an SEC fan.
Congrats, dude, Dalton threw a couple touchdowns. You still LOST to Boise State and have less BCS bowl wins than us.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Dec 22, 2011 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You’re the one who said “any QB in TCU history”. TCU happens to have a whole lot of history. For example, we’ve played in every game that makes up the current BCS (as well as the Cotton Bowl).
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 22, 2011 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
that just makes it more sad
that the horny kermits haven’t accomplished much more than BSU given the time frame. i’ll take consistent excellence over sporadic history any day.
haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.
*Chris Petersen For President*
by mc.hammertime on Dec 22, 2011 11:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
On the contrary, I find that the suffering and terrible seasons that we endured make me much more appreciative of our revival now- I think that I enjoy a 13-0 season much more, having seen 1-10 seasons before it.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 23, 2011 1:10 AM CST up reply actions
Shoot.
If you are reaching back to the 30’s, let’s count our national titles in Junior College, NAIA and in Division II. That’s right, after we win the BCS title, we will be the only school to win the national title from every division.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That would be quite a feat, good luck!
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 23, 2011 5:12 AM CST up reply actions
50-3.
Winningest quarterback in college football history.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Dec 22, 2011 10:45 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Congrats on your win tonight. Good luck winning the Mountain West next year, perhaps we’ll see you in the BCS again.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 22, 2011 11:29 PM CST up reply actions
Top ten ranking.
Big East champs 2013-whenever we decide to leave.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t deny that Boise will likely have great success in the Big East, but if you think you’re going to win it every year, then you are in for a rude surprise.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 23, 2011 5:11 AM CST up reply actions
Who claims "every" year?
That’s insane, I’d say we’d be in contention every year though
by BSUbluNorange on Dec 23, 2011 9:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Your compatriot “Bring the HAMMER!” declared Boise State Big East champs in perpetuity. In the discussion every year, absolutely. Winner/BCS representative most years? Probably. Every year? No.
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by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 23, 2011 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
I'd be willing to say we win our division nearly every year.
That means a conference championship berth. Anything can happen in that game. But I do believe the past 4 years, and in 2006, Boise state had a better team than anything the Big East could put up.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
this thread is so sad...
TCU can’t even be happy with a win. still plagued with an inferiority complex, they just can’t let it go. Patterson’s hissy fits must be contagious, they’ve infected the horny toads’ entire sbnation fanbase… All two of them. How are you still jealous of a Kellen you beat? When your qb is 5 points away from a perfect career and he gets snubbed out of the heisman for a lesser player then you can whine about someone else getting recognition.
haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.
*Chris Petersen For President*
by mc.hammertime on Dec 22, 2011 11:56 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Sam Baugh (who was a TD from perfection) and Ladainian Tomlinson were both screwed out of the Heisman by lesser talents as well (seriously, Chris Weinke? A 26 year old Heisman Winner? Ugh.)
Not jealous of Kellen, just in need of blowing off a little steam my good chum.
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by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 23, 2011 1:13 AM CST up reply actions
Well that resulted in a dumb write-up.
You are probably the only person in the nation that thinks Kellen has a tainted legacy. How’s the weather outside the top 15?
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:27 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not a tainted legacy, just an incomplete one, my good chum.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 23, 2011 5:10 AM CST up reply actions
Oh boo hoo
Stop crying. TCU and BSU are both good teams. I’m sorry ESPN talked about our QB for 10 minutes of your game. He is a great kid who has won 50 games. I’m not sure why you’re attacking him and not ESPN. And he may have not thrown a TD in the Fiesta Bowl against TCU but at least he didn’t throw a TD to the other team .
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by forseyfan36 on Dec 23, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you're full of it, chumbucket.
Kellen getting half an hour of air time on your mediocre bowl game is not nearly enough. It was more epic than what was happening on the field, obviously. The man has FIFTY WINS. Come on. He deserves every second of praise he gets for 3 years on Heisman Watch and no trophy and for getting ripped on for his size/arm strength while getting basically NO espn recognition this year for his accomplishments. The kid was labeled a two star recruit, for crying out loud (Something you do quite often, I see) and he’s now the winningest QB in college football history. If it makes you that unhappy that he’s not on your team, give me an address and I’ll ship you some kleenex and a #11 jersey to help you move on. Come on in, Everett, the water’s fine. Bronco Nation gon’ warsh away yer sins.
haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.
*Chris Petersen For President*
by mc.hammertime on Dec 23, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
lesser player?
Gtfo here you prob mean black player.
by TCUCard on Dec 23, 2011 12:06 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Seriously?
You are an idiot, Card. Race has nothing to do with it. That is on the top 25 list of dumb things you’ve said.
"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC and sometimes Big 12, Big 10 or Pac 12."
by Bring the HAMMER! on Dec 23, 2011 2:25 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I spy... something sad and lonely
it has no tact and even less shirt…
also has never met anyone that wasn’t caucasian in their life…
it wins the award for most ignorant/racist comment..
yep you guessed it. it’s TCUTard!
haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate.
*Chris Petersen For President*
by mc.hammertime on Dec 23, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Apart from when we play Texas A&M.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 24, 2011 6:45 AM CST up reply actions
The average TCU fan:
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Dec 23, 2011 1:52 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
actual Boise fan:
http://www.frogsowar.com
by Purple Wimple on Dec 24, 2011 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
oh, the humanity!
http://www.frogsowar.com
by Purple Wimple on Dec 24, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
nothing beats riling up pathetic boise fans
Who worship the ground a qb walks on. I’m glad they have someone to be proud of otherwise life at bsu would be extremely hard. I was at that fiesta bowl and met some quality people from Idaho obviously I’m probably more educated then I come off on a blog post but honestly Boise st fans are delusional of they think they have a better future in football than TCU so considering none of us have a crystal ball lets look at current history: TCU outright mwc champs. UofL big east champs. Boise um yeah lolz
by TCUCard on Dec 23, 2011 2:31 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Louisville did not win the Big East...
West Virginia did.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Dec 23, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
dude check your facts
UofL won at wvu but due to a loss at Cincy wvu got the bcs bid due to a tiebreaker. UofL was co- big east champs. Check the trophy case.
by TCUCard on Dec 24, 2011 11:21 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Check the BCS.
Lousyville is not in it.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
by 82-0 on Dec 24, 2011 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That’s not exactly a failsafe measure of success, neither TCU nor Boise are in the BCS, while Virginia Tech is.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 24, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
Bottom line:
This site is usually dead, so you decided to troll in order to drum up some page views. You’re welcome.
Kellen “50-3” Moore > all other college quarterbacks, EVER.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
I troll because I’m kind of a jerk, not for page views, kthx.
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by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 25, 2011 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
last I saw this was a tcu blog
I’ve posted on here before. Kellen Moore. Zero national titles. Zero Heismans. He’s no Tim Tebow. He’s not even Cam Newton lol tell Moore he can hold clipboards for Dalton while the people in Boise relish the good ol days when they were relevant
by TCUCard on Dec 24, 2011 10:34 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
And more relevant, no Mountain West titles.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 25, 2011 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
And Dalton had how many national tiles or heismans?
Haha, you guys are tools
by BSUbluNorange on Jan 6, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
The same number as Kellen Moore, but with two Mountain West championships to Moore’s Zero.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
Dalton only won 2 conf cahmpionships? To Kellen's three?
by BSUbluNorange on Jan 7, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
I’m not going to knock the non-conference part of Boise’s schedule, because the Broncos did typically play a solid BCS team and two-three top tier non-AQ teams, but the only dangerous team Moore played in the WAC was 2010 Nevada, and Boise lost that game. In 2008 the second place team was La Tech- who lost to Army that same season. In 2009 the second best team was Nevada who got throttled by middling Colorado State and SMU outfits. You can blame the 2010 Nevada loss on the kicker, but we could do similarly with the Utah game from 2008.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
You know what, I'm going to contend that Kellen won 4 WAC championships and a MWC championship
Having beaten MWC Conference Champ TCU in 2009. Don’t forget the next year he beat the MWC’s second best team Utah in another Bowl game. MWC was always a two team conference. BYU was always just a decent middle of the conference team.
by BSUbluNorange on Jan 9, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
ROFL...I LOVE IT!
Even on the TCU website people want to talk about Kellen Moore and BSU more than they want to talk about TCU. Why would the announcers be any different?
Did you realize in your “Poinsettia Bowl Wrapup” You spent no time talking about the TCU/LaTech game, but only about Kellen Moore.
by Jay Weston on Dec 29, 2011 12:37 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
thatsthejoke.jpg
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 31, 2011 1:20 AM CST up reply actions
As a TCU fan I have to disagree with this post.
Kellen was an incredible athlete with a great legacy.This post makes us all look like ignorant fools. For once in a lifetime the Boise fans are right. I’m disappointed. Go Frogs!
If you win a Rose Bowl you are allowed to live in the past.
I’m sorry you feel that way, as I mentioned in the post, the coverage of what was going on in the game just halting (while the game continued to go on) so that the announcers could spend an unhealthy amount of time talking about Kellen Moore irked me considerably, so I lashed out.
That said, the Boise State fans who think that Kellen Moore will go down as the greatest QB in the history of the college game are deluded.
http://www.frogsowar.com/
by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 31, 2011 1:23 AM CST up reply actions
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